I answered before reading your definition.I'm not sure your definition is quite correct.Definition of proselytizeintransitive verb1: to induce someone to convert to one's faith2: to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or causeMerriam-WebsterI agree that one shouldn't be arrogant... but I'm not sure that is applicable in the definition.
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Certainly, I would agree, that there is a line that shouldn't be crossed:Many times Jesus said "Come to me..."; as in "thirsty, hungry, burdened" etc... "Come to me" denotes free will and not being forced. One can be thirsty but not wanting to "come to Jesus". At the same time Jesus said (paraphrased), "Don't prevent the children from coming to me..." which also denotes a free will and speak against those who say "Don't proselytize or evangelize" IMO
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Neither am I. I just kicked it off. Curious how others feel about both Evangelizing and Proselytizing, and if they see a clear difference. I did not.I came across this today, where the Pope explains a bit about this:Proselytism is the strongest venom against the path of ecumenism - Pope Francis, Oct. 13, 2016The Holy Father isn't discouraging evangelization. He's discouraging proselytization.
"Does that mean we must all go door to door, handing out tracts and pamphlets on street corners, proclaiming fiery speeches and haranguing our neighbors?"I would agree with the Pope but I would hold to the position of "that is not proselytizing" - that is harrasment--although pamphlets would be OK with me.
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Let’s see:John 6:44. No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day. The Father draws him, NOT the proselytizer.John 14:6. Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”NOT through the proselytizer.Ephesians 2:8. For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,NOT your doing, NOT the proselytizer, but a gift of God.Isaiah 43:11. I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.NO other, the proselytizer will not save you OR even help you find the way.The only thing the proselytizer can do, is lead you to their religion, along with its falsities.
Are there Bible proofs that Proselytism is wrong?First of all what is the difference between Evangelizing vs Proselytizing?IMO (very short):1) Evangelizing is being enthusiastic about something and sharing it with others, who eagerly want to hear2) Proselytizing is evangelizing, but thinking/speaking/acting arrogantly, as if you know best (also for others)Hypothetical:1) God is defined as: omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent2) The Bible is the word of God and could be "perfect"Even if there are mistakes in the Bible, this 'omni'-God could change it, if He deems it necessary. All Bibles He could change within seconds. But God did not do that, hence 2 options: No errors or God is fine with errors or...a) There are no errors? We have gone over this, no need to do this here again.b) Why would God allow errors (or inconsistencies)?c) Why tell in 1 place to Proselytize, and in another don't?d) Would you go against God (if that's possible at all), when choosing one over the other (or choose both)?(If you believe there are no errors, then you can remain silent. This OP is not about (dis)proving errors; just your opinion of the verse)Now coming back to the OP's title. I found some verse, that clearly indicates "Proselytism is wrong". Also a verse that indicate "Proselytizing is right". As a Christian you must follow the Bible, so it seems you can choose. In this OP I decided to pick "do not Proselytize". Those who pick the other one, again, need not convince others that 'all' have to Proselytize. That would be Proselytizing itself, which would also violate RF Rule#8. I am fine they believe that way, they may, but need not change.*) I am curious if others found verses that clearly tell us "Do not proselytize".*) This is not about "is this an error or not"*) This is more about "I found errors", what I do now?*) Accepting Bible inconsistencies. Figure out, "why God allowed errors". Why if God is omniscient etc.?*) IF I have a problem with inconsistencies, does this problem lies within myself, or not?*) If I have a problem with inconsistencies, how I solve it?*) The solution "God does not exist in the first place" is ruled out in the beginning: Hypothetical-1).
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a). There are no errors in the Bible. It’s true, mistranslations are errors, but the word of God is without error. You can discover mistranslations (some done on purpose because of an agenda). It’s not hard to do. Also, after a while, you will not even be bothered by the errors in translation, because you will know what is correct. Jeremiah 31:33 “This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel after that time," declares the LORD. "I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people.” At that time, you will also know what is meant by “the people of Israel”. b). Since there are no errors, this becomes moot.c). Once one has a clear understanding who (what) God really is, the Bible message becomes coherent. At that time, one sees the big picture, and no longer needs to cherry-pick select verses to support their personal misguided views.d). I make every effort NOT to go against God.